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Pre-Scratch Signless: Be the Seer of Blood by Oreramar Pre-Scratch Signless: Be the Seer of Blood by Oreramar
Calling it now.

If "Seer" is not a gender-specific, female-only class, then I would peg the Pre-Scratch Signless as being it. It'd make some level of sense, given his post-scratch self's dreams of the past, possibly due to his unique blood (so Doc Scratch postulated at least)...and I kinda like the idea of the hood which can hide his eyes, even though he wouldn't have seen any particular need for it during the game since they likely didn't have anything against his odd blood color.
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book-worm5198 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
HOLY. CRAP. SPOT ON!!! D:

Predict more! :D Maybe that will come true too!
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013   Digital Artist
Thanks, but I'm often wrong as well. For instance, I once predicted that some form of the Bunny would be Calliope's Juju and Lil Cal would be Caliborn's, and we all know how that turned out...though I guess I was half right since Caliborn adopted Cal as a Juju in the end. :P

So...Jade and John's ship will come out near where Prospit once was, and the asteroid riders will come to Dirk and Roxy's aid at Derse. This is not yet the final battle; they'll either Abscond or, if they do engage, it'll be cut short by something else.

Also, Kurloz and Gamzee mention a "Calicorn." IF this wasn't a typo, and IF it's not some sort of 'evolved' name Caliborn took before adopting Lord English, then perhaps, perhaps it's the adopted name of the theorized victorious Calliope. They could be double agents of a sort; you never know with clowns (or mimes, I guess).

I'm not sure what else to call. Homestuck can be too random to so accurately predict. I never, ever expected Jack Noir to get the gold peg-leg, tooth, and billiard ball eyes of Lord English. Still sort of reeling over that mess and trying to make sense of it. It's not working too well so far.
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book-worm5198 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
One should not apply logic to Homestuck. It eats it up like a violent storm! XD

Weird, I noticed the gold tooth of Jack before, and wondered about a connection, but to that extend :|
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av-marten Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Dude! Dude you were right!
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012   Digital Artist
AH! UPDATE???

Thanks for the alert...though I'm now trying to watch it, but all I get on the page is "Error: your browser is too old to display content"

SO FRUSTRATING. >:x
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av-marten Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
It's best if you use firefox or google chrome, apparently. Also, it's one of the flash games so you will need this: [link] It is a walkthrough. You might need it. I had to cry for help on my tumblr because I started before the walkthrough was posted and I suck at video games.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012   Digital Artist
Noooo! I hate Chrome! I have avoided downloading Chrome on this (or any) computer since my first heavily-annoying encounter with it! WHY, HUSSIE, WHY?

Seems I might be forced to bite that bullet anyhow. :(

Tell me, though...do we at least have a name? Or is he still Whats-his-face Vantas?
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av-marten Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Crap that was a lot of spoilers. I'm really sorry about that, I just can't contain my excitement. And my relief that this is pretty tame in comparison to the clustercuss that was the last update.
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av-marten Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
We have met three and heard mention of two. We have Kankri Vantas, Latula Pyrope, Porrim Maryam, Meulin Leijon, and Mituna Captor.

Kankri is basically Hussie's middle finger pointed at social justice tumblr bloggers who take political correctness to its logical extreme. I still love him for some reason though. I think it's the red turtleneck.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012   Digital Artist
I just got Chrome and went through the whole thing and it's two thirty in the morning and I don't think I'm going to be sleeping anytime soon I'm just so :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D...

Yeah.

Oh gods oh gods Karkat's face the poor little wiggler!

And I called so many things, I feel so pleased! Even though I pretty much dismissed "Knight of Mind" due to the too-nice symmetry of Karkat and Terezi's classes being swapped in their pre-scratch ancestors...so that's sort of like calling something accidentally and then making the mistake of saying "Naaaaaah" and being proved...well, accidentally right but ultimately wrong? I can't even make sense to myself anymore.

And I considered Maid of Space, at least briefly. So happy! :D

And I so knew that Karkat and Kankri's "shared trait" (as it were) would be eloquence and loquaciousness (hell, Karkat is almost NEVER short on words, as much as he bends his toward vulgarity and insult, and I figured his ancestor self would be similar, albeit turning his gift of gabbing toward the persuasive)...I just never expected it to go so damn far. In that, I think I sort of prefer Signless, since he really went out and tried to do something rather than, yes, be a politically correct blogger with a thesaurus in his throat.

I felt (probably even looked slightly) like Karkat, reading those posts. Eyes bugging, jaw dropped, making strangled little noises...save mine were far more amused and sympathetic toward our poor crabby troll.

Oh gods I have to sleep, but I don't know if I can anymore...
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av-marten Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
What I was kind of expecting/hoping for with Kankri was something more along the lines of a coherent Gamzee. Like a very zen, love-freak-hippie-flower-child-hugs-for-everyone kind of personality. Still very much like a tumblr blog, but instead one of those "I love all you beautiful people" blogs instead of those "check your ____ privilege" blogs.

I'm still holding out for whether or not the Summoner's name is some six-letter variation of Rufio. Like Ruefio or Rufioh or Rufiyo or something. On the bright side, my friend and I now have more names to work with for the adult gypsies in our Victorianstuck story. They'll be closer to their Post-Scratch selves (or at least as much as we know about their Post-Scratch selves), but we will be using Kankri, Porrim, Muelin, and Mituna. In fact, I think Latula and the handmaid are the only ancestors we're excluding.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012   Digital Artist
I'm with you there. Perhaps less hippie-flower-child, but I was imagining a fairly open, compassionate, even huggy personality myself. Instead we got PC-thesaurus-blogger from Hell. Still, I'll give him some time. Maybe he'll grow on me a bit. Maybe...

Oh that would be too brilliant! Rufioh Nitram...if only! :D

I've got to wonder, though, how was Kankri named Kankri? Did he also have a crab lusus who was, it seems, rather fond of clicking noises? And if so, does that mean the Dolorosa named Signless that same name by some bizarre trollish twist of fate?

It's like someone took "cranky" and spelled it "kranki" and then switched the 'r' to a new position. I just can't figure out how to pronounce it right...
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ProjectBlackIris Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Since the Seer class is female exclusive im sad that he isnt the seer of blood, since that was my first prediction for him. But I also see him as the Mage, since the Mage MIGHT be male counter part of the seer class. Think about, its speculated that the Mage is "given protection from the ill effects of one's aspects". even though in post scratch his "aspect", his blood, lead him to his death I still think the class makes since.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012   Digital Artist
I didn't think that the Seer class was canonically female exclusive...at least, not yet. Sure, both we've seen have been girls, but that might not always be the case. It may even be one of those classes which can be either but is typically female rather than male - point is, we don't know for certain yet.

All we actually know about Mage is that Sollux was one (of doom) and he heard doomish whispers. I've never actually seen any speculation on the matter, though, and Hussie does like to surprise us with this stuff. Who would have thought that Prince of Hope meant that Eridan was one who destroyed (or destroyed through) hope itself? I'm pretty sure speculation about the Princely class - even after that whole incident - was that it was "one who ruled over" or "one who controlled" their aspect.

Still, Mage of Blood or even Heir of Blood, I can take either of those. Gog forbid Hussie make him Page or Bard of Blood. I might scream if he does. XP
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ProjectBlackIris Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh gog Lol. Hussie will troll us so we gotta be on guard. If anyone's the page of the pre-scratch trolls I see it to be pre-scratch Executioner. For certain reasons of course.
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NinjaYoshi28 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
This just looks so awesome....I can't find the words to accurately portray to you how much I love this piece of art. Well done.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012   Digital Artist
Thank you so much! Your words mean a lot to me. :D
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NinjaYoshi28 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
^_^ You're very welcome.
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Minji-chan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Student General Artist
I am so fucking glad that I'm not the only one that sees him as a seer. If he's not then I'm going to be very disappointed :(
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012   Digital Artist
It's actually sort of exciting for me, as well. I didn't count on so many positive comments regarding my prediction. :D
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Minji-chan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Student General Artist
[link]

I actually have him listed as a seer on my spreadsheet lol (wow I need to update that lol)
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012   Digital Artist
Now that's organization!

Yeah, updating would be nice, particularly along the bottom. Though it's a bit funny, because I can sort of roughly guess when you made/last updated this by the notation that UU is named "Calmasis" and is a "Troll." XD

Boy, Hussie got us all good with THAT little turnaround.
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Minji-chan Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012  Student General Artist
XD I know lol Actually the last time that was updated was when Jane first entered her world and it was when the update where you had to solve the puzzle using the lanterns.
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Ninja-Kiwi96 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree that he would be the Seer Of Blood. Makes more sense than any of the other classes. But if the Seer is gender-specific I'd think he could be the Heir of Blood.

Anyway, this looks amazing! Love the wings.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012   Digital Artist
Heir could work as well, failing Seer - I agree with you there.

Thank you!
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Ninja-Kiwi96 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. I'd like to see him as the Seer though.

Your welcome!~
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EveHilson Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Student General Artist
FINALLY!

Someone else thinks Signless would be the Seer of Blood!

I had this idea for a while, too, but I couldn't find any pictures.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012   Digital Artist
Yay - I'm not alone!

It's probably not a very common prediction/idea, especially given the fact that both the Seers we know of are female.
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EveHilson Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Student General Artist
Yeah.

I mean, I can understand the Seer thing with Signless because of the visions he had (I roleplay him, that's why I'm so excited). I first thought of Seer of Hope, but when Aranea and Meenah came out as their descendants' aspects, I knew that Signless would be the same as Karkat.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012   Digital Artist
I never really formulated any guesses until this one - and this only came after we got Aranea as a Sylph of Light. I needed that formula, I guess - same aspect, different class - before I could really take a leap.

Seer of Hope, though - that would make some sense, if the aspects could be different. I like it. :)

All this makes me really wonder who the Bard was in that first session, though...
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EveHilson Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Student General Artist
I don't know, but... I was literally just squealing my ass off when I saw the silhouettes of the Post-Scratch ancestors.

The only accurate class for Signless (or Castus/Leslie/Mufasa/Garnet/Cancer as I call him) would be Seer. I would be surprised if he wasn't that class.

What if Darkleer was the Bard? Or Dorkscar? I could see one of those being a Bard. Since I don't think GHB could be it due to Gamzee being it already.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012   Digital Artist
I was quite excited as well, figuring out which one was which. I must say that the Psiionic's hairstyle looks like it promises to be rather on the ridiculous side, though...

Castus is, I think, the best name out of that lot. Can't wait to see what Hussie decides to call him, though I fear I may be in for a very long wait after all, given all the "Whats-his-face Karkat" references. >.<

I'm pretty sure Bard was specified as male-only. GHB, as you said, shouldn't be the Bard, and it's likely not Whats-his-face either. Of course, that does leave every single other male as a possibility, given how relatively little we know of their actual personalities and roles in the game. We could have a Bard of Hope, of Doom, of Breath, or of Void.

Though I think, to some extent at least, that it'd be neat to see the Summoner as the Knight of Breath, paralleling Tavros as the Page and fitting well with his Lancekind weapon.
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EveHilson Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Student General Artist
Yeah. I really can't wait for the images to arrive!

I chose Castus (kas-'toos) because of its meaning in Latin: "chaste, innocent, stainless, clean, pure, self-forgetful, godly, pious, holy, grammatical, and well-formed". I was just looking up words that were 6 letters and...there it was!

It would be hilarious to see the Bard of Hope, and Dualscar not really enjoying the codpiece. Same with Psiioniic and the others. But it would be even MORE hilarious if it was Darkleer.

I found this picture of Post-Scratch Psiioniic... It was like... He had a visor over his eyes like that guy from Star Trek, but it was red fading into blue. Looked interesting.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012   Digital Artist
Images, names, personalities...I want the whole bundle! Hussie does like to leave us hanging, though, so it'll be quite a long while before we see any of it.

It's a good name indeed. His real name had better be at least as good as your fan-chosen name, else I'll feel cheated. :D

That codpiece creeped me out a bit once it was pointed out in some comments I was reading on another Homestuck artwork (I hadn't noticed it myself). I would not wish it on any character, personally, even Dualscar. XP

I don't watch Star Trek, but I'm envisioning a simple, continuous visor anyhow. A gradiant...interesting indeed. :)
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jarrtail Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
You read Homestuck?
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I am legitimately excited about this.
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Oreramar Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012   Digital Artist
Yes, I do. :D

Currently trying to get my sister to read it also. Isn't going well; her first attempt to read didn't get too far before her computer died and forcibly restarted. She lost her place and proclaimed it too boring to go through again...
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